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    -Have not seen Sukujaka hit/knock anybody back on activation (then again i've never seen Yosuke whip it out point blank), so im also not sure if its safe to guard afterwards.

    -For combos check the combo thread, and the General Discussion thread for Yosuke, I wanna say we had a bit of discussion on Yosuke in Sukujaka mode

    -I dont believe the personae have their weaknesses in this game, that'd be a little unfair for alot of the cast due to Elizabeth having Garudyne,Agidyne and Bufudyne and the game sporting 3 lightning users (Kanji Narukami and Akihiko)

    -As for combos canceling into new combos, most likely, especially since you can make all sorts of things possible with 1 more canceling and 1 more bursts. Again, refer to the combo and video threads for things like that.

    Sorry if I didnt help much

    Edit: Neurotic beat me to it with an actual helpful post :< Lol. Least he was actually helpful XD *thumbs up*

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    Thanks to Masu and Neurotic both, I understand things better now~

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    Can anyone confirm 5B being frame advantage on hit? Almost every video I watch seems to suggest it, but speculation only goes so far
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    Do you mean on hit or on block? As far as I know on block 5B is safe because I have never seen it punished, hell even Yosuke's 2B appears to be safe on block because I've seen some people do 5A>5B>2B block strings over and over again.

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    Generally when asking for frame advantage people mean on block, since when I hit with 5B I don't even care if it's + or - , since I'm trying to combo off it if it hits. Only times you normally care about frame adv on hit is on a footsie-ish move like mitsuru's coup de droit.

    Also, it's safe for sure, but watching Yosukes reset pressure with 5B straight back into 5A xN and other players respecting it implies that it's plus, but I wanted to know for certain
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    https://twitter.com/hc0519/status/221059458929930241

    It's +1 on block, courtesy of Ho-chan/Stunedge. He's a pretty good Yukiko, so if you're interested in her, check him out!
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    Just for some closure, we won't know for sure if it's plus on block since the latest P4 mook won't have frame data (unless someone hacks the game to deliver the frame data).
    EDIT: ah, you answered the question. Do you have any frame knowledge on the characters so far?

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    Mitsuru's coup is negative if not spaced at the tip, and most 5AAA gatlings are unsafe. Past that my knowledge is really limited... I think Yosuke 5C 2C is plus, but I may be wrong. Once again that's speculation, and I've seen people get out of it sometimes. Outside of some really obvious moves like Yu's divekick or charged/delayed sword dive, frame data remains a mystery for me. I do know that uncharged sword dive for Yu is - on block for sure, while charged is more plus, and EX moves are usually frame adv on block as well.

    Frame data isn't too hard to speculate however, watching a few good match videos of good players and their decisions when said normals/speicals occur can tell you pretty clearly. I speculated 5B was plus because of this, and I was right.
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    Good to know good to know, isn't the Jiraiya blockstring safe if you backdash cancel it or something? I think I remember hearing Jiyuna say something about that, but my memory is really hazy....

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    To my knowledge most persona blockstrings are safe on block, whether or not they're plus is the question
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