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    I wonder if developers leak stuff on purpose just to stir up more interest and speculation for the game.
    It'd be genius if that's the case.

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    Hahaha, true. They do this to screw with us, and to want their game to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluxWaveZ View Post
    Not only should you not be establishing a direct comparison between the work-in-progress in-game character select screen with the one on the website because that might not be how the characters are disposed in the final game, but the website already has characters placed differently when compared to what we've seen in the actual game as Naoto is to the far left on the site, not Aigis.
    Well, first off, I never said "there will definitely not be another character", I said the exact opposite of that, in fact. I was simply providing reasons why there might NOT be. As for the character select screen, the latest updated version that we have seen only had room for two more characters. Furthermore, there HAS to be a spot for Random. The only way more characters could fit on there is if they added a tarot to it. Even ignoring that, though, the number of open spots for characters on a character select screen isn't the best way to determine how many characters are going to be in the game anyway. That's what led to some serious disappointment for Ougon Musou Kyoku when people were assuming there would be a character for each spot and there wasn't.

    Plus, what would be the significance of the remaining Twitter icon—the very last one—when we take Akihiko and Mitsuru into account?
    This proves that there's one more character involved that we don't know of yet.
    No it doesn't. It doesn't prove anything. It's a twitter icon, it can be anything from the game's logo to an icon that cycles through all the characters, or hell, it could be for a NPC. An extra twitter icon does not, in any way, PROVE there is definitely one more playable character.

    Also, with the story beats that we know of now (Teddie organizing a tournament for a particular reason, Aigis being in Inaba for a particular reason, and Mitsuru getting something stolen from her), it wouldn't make sense for all of the fighting characters to have already been revealed. There has to be something connecting them all together, not to mention the fact that none of them particularly fit the role of "boss" character.
    What is connecting them together doesn't exactly have to be a playable character, ya know...

    Finally, upon the early days of the site's launch, people had checked out the source code of the website and had found one thing of note:
    "Syuyaku". This combined with the fact that ArcSys (or Atlus, I don't remember) had said something akin to "The possibility of original characters is not out of the question." in an interview makes it very likely that this Syuyaku is a remaining character yet to be revealed.
    Well, I have never heard that before, and while that is definitely exciting and bursting with possibilities, it's not a guarantee of definitely having another playable character. It should be any number of things, including a character with a sprite that doesn't have a playable fighting role. We shouldn't assume things are definitely going to happen until we know for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluxWaveZ View Post
    Only that Toshimichi Mori hinted that there may be original characters in the game during TGS, so it's probably going to happen.

    Oh yeah, and also that the game coming to NA was basically confirmed (not that there was any doubt) because it's going to be playable this April at The Woodlands Waterway Marriott & Convention Center for Anime Matsuri at Houston with some of the game's creators being present.
    Well, I need to go to Houston in April

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilTrigger View Post
    Well, I need to go to Houston in April
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    The way I figure it, there are 3 scenarios that hold the most credibility.

    1)Syu is a boss only character
    2)Syu is the last playable character
    3)Syu is a Persona for another character

    There are other possibilities, such as just another sprite added to a characters intro or something (Like how Terumi appears in Mu's intro) but those 3 things seem to hold the most water to them, but you never know after all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Nocturne View Post
    Well, first off, I never said "there will definitely not be another character", I said the exact opposite of that, in fact. I was simply providing reasons why there might NOT be. As for the character select screen, the latest updated version that we have seen only had room for two more characters.
    You didn't say the exact opposite of "There definitely will not be another character" as that would be "There definitely will be another character." What I was proving is that there will be another character. And again, the game's coming out in 2012. We can't take what we see in the character select screen now as an indication of the remaining character slots, like you said.

    Furthermore, there HAS to be a spot for Random. The only way more characters could fit on there is if they added a tarot to it.
    Not on the website there doesn't. Why would there be a character slot dedicated to "Random" on the official website? That would just be jarring and pointless.

    No it doesn't. It doesn't prove anything. It's a twitter icon, it can be anything from the game's logo to an icon that cycles through all the characters, or hell, it could be for a NPC. An extra twitter icon does not, in any way, PROVE there is definitely one more playable character.
    Well, it'd be weird to think that the last Twitter icon would be anything but a character profile considering what's already there, but it's true that it could be an NPC, just like Rise's. Still, I doubt that an NPC character would be significant enough to keep secret for this long, even holding it a secret for the very last icon.

    What is connecting them together doesn't exactly have to be a playable character, ya know...
    I've yet to hear of a fighting game that didn't have some kind of boss character. The arcade mode has already been said to pursue the story as a shortened version from the console's Story Mode, so what would be the point of a story build up just to have no kind of boss character to fight. No fighting game has simply been a tournament without something else happening in the background.

    Well, I have never heard that before, and while that is definitely exciting and bursting with possibilities, it's not a guarantee of definitely having another playable character. It should be any number of things, including a character with a sprite that doesn't have a playable fighting role. We shouldn't assume things are definitely going to happen until we know for sure.
    Okay, but you've ignored the fact that Arc System Works' producer who's working on P4U hinted himself at TGS that there could be original, playable characters. Hints like that are not given for nothing.

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    I'm a bit late and I can't contribute much to the discussion, but I'd like to point out something about the Syuyaku name, since some people were thinking it was mispelled: The "syu" syllable actually exists in Japanese. But it's pronounced as "shu", so you may see that instead of "syu" if you look for a hiragana chart. The japanese romanize it as "syu", though. So in hiragana the name is しゅやく.

    Probably pointless but hey, I thought I should correct that. =P
    Last edited by Kayarine; 11-19-2011 at 06:02 AM. Reason: More clarification and less confusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayarine View Post
    I'm a bit late and I can't contribute much to the discussion, but I'd like to point out something about the Syuyaku name, since some people were thinking it was mispelled: The "syu" syllable actually exists in japanese, it's the combination of "shi" and "yu". It's not "shyu", it's "syu" indeed (although it's pronounced as "shu," I believe.) So in hiragana it's しゅやく.

    Probably pointless but hey, I thought I should correct that. =P
    Thanks for actually pointing that out, Kaya!
    I've been actually learning Japanese so that's important for me to note as well.
    I also noticed that "しゅ" is also "Shu" on Hiragana charts. That probably caused my initial confusion.
    Do you know if there's a context difference with using "Syu" and "Shu"?

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    Yeah. Shu is basically the pronounciation and syu is the romanized text. I edited my previous post a bit to clarify it.

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