Teddie - General Discussion "It's time to get wild!"

[Androu1]

I tried a bunch of times doing Teddie's and someone else's grab (I tried against Yu, Aigis, Naoto and Elizabeth) at the same time. It does seem that Teddie's grab is a little bit faster than others, as this always ended up with Teddie grabbing the opponent (and they escaping the throw).

Dunno if my timing was off or anything, but I did try a bunch of times and I did it by setting Throw to Y (C) and Play to B (D), with the dummy recorded to try to throw as soon as B was pressed, so the timing seemed to be good enough and I even tried pressing the Play button slightly before the I pressed Throw for Teddie and the results were pretty much the same.

Still, I think it's possible that pretty much all throws are equally fast (except Kanji's, that one seems to be slighty slower as he dashes forward first), but I guess we can't really tell without frame data.

[LordSpectreX]

I tried a bunch of times doing Teddie's and someone else's grab (I tried against Yu, Aigis, Naoto and Elizabeth) at the same time. It does seem that Teddie's grab is a little bit faster than others, as this always ended up with Teddie grabbing the opponent (and they escaping the throw).

Dunno if my timing was off or anything, but I did try a bunch of times and I did it by setting Throw to Y (C) and Play to B (D), with the dummy recorded to try to throw as soon as B was pressed, so the timing seemed to be good enough and I even tried pressing the Play button slightly before the I pressed Throw for Teddie and the results were pretty much the same.

Still, I think it's possible that pretty much all throws are equally fast (except Kanji's, that one seems to be slighty slower as he dashes forward first), but I guess we can't really tell without frame data.

Well, it's good to know my ideas aren't just completely unfounded. I guess time will tell. Thanks for doing that for me.

[Androu1]

Also, here's the Damage and SP Gain, I guess. Good enough?

Spoiler!

Teddie Damage and SP Gain:

Attack - Damage, SP

-Normals:
5A - 230, 2SP
5AA - 251, 2SP
5AAA - 572, 14SP
2A - 210, 2SP
5B - 600, 4SP
2B - 550, 4SP
j.A - 425, 3SP max (1st hit gives 2SP, 3rd hit gives 1SP)
j.B - 630, 4SP

-Persona:
5C - 1000, 5SP
2C - 1140, 6SP
j.C - 1000, 5SP

-Specials:
Bearscrew (A) - 1035, 5SP
Bearscrew (B) - 1250, 6SP
Bearscrew (SB) - 990, 1SP
Puppeteddie (A) - 700, 4SP
Puppeteddie (B) - 900, 5SP
Puppeteddie (SB) - 1000, 1SP
Teddievision (A) - 800, 4SP
Teddievision (B) - 800, 4SP
Teddievision (SB) - 800, 1SP

-Supers:
Tomahawk (Ground C) - 1597 (Missile hit: 700 - Explosion: 897)
Tomahawk (Ground D, Air C and Air D) - 1897 (Missile hit: 1000 - Explosion: 897)
Circus Bear - 3000

-Items:
1) MF-06S Brahman - 600, 4SP
2) Dr. Salt NEO - N/A
3) Dry Ice - 200, 2SP
4) Smart Bomb - 2000, 9SP
5) Oil Drum - First Hit while falling: 300, 3SP. While rolling: 1200 (8 hits, 150 each), max of 6SP (varies)
6) Vanish Ball - N/A
7) Firecracker - 900, 5SP
8) Ball Lightning - 860, 5SP
9) Muscle Drink - N/A
10) Pinwheel - First Hit: 200, 2SP. Every other hit: 100, 1SP every 2 hits (starting with the 2nd hit, counting the very first hit)
11) Heavy-Armor Agni - First Hit: 600, 4SP. Second Hit (only close to a wall): 300, 1SP
12) Mystery Food X - N/A
13) Amagiya Bucket - 340, 0SP


-Others:
Ground Throw - 1100, 4SP
Air Throw - 1500, 5SP
Sweep - 1300, 6SP (100 and 2SP if only the fish connects)
All-Out Attack - 300, 3SP
Furious Action (Teddie Decoy) - 99, 2SP

[LordSpectreX]

Perfect, thanks. I'll get around to that in a little bit.

[SUPBABY]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...PgJQMO_D4/edit

Likely not all the info here is 100% accurate, if anyone wanted to confirm/test some of the material that would be swell. Please feel free to contribute/edit so it's more accessible. Looking to add more stuff as time goes on. Thanks.

[Vysetron]

Gonna represent Ted at my local fight night tonight. Any secrets I should be aware of besides swing more bats?

[KingKaimon]

Teddie is so fucking fun to play.

I just want to put that out there, I almost feel ashamed for losing interest in him a month ago

[LordSpectreX]

Best Options for Item Throwing

Brahman - 2C>2D
Dr Salt Neo - 5D
Dry Ice - 5C>2D
Smart Bomb - 2C>2D
Oil Drum - Any
Vanish Ball - 5D
Firecracker - 2C>2D
Ball Lightning - 5D (Vs Rushdown) 2C>2D (Vs Zoning)
Muscle Drink - 2C>2D
Pinwheel - 5C>5D
Heavy Armor Agni - Any
Mystery Food X - 2C>2D
Amaglya Bucket - 2C>2D

[Bill307]

Gonna represent Ted at my local fight night tonight. Any secrets I should be aware of besides swing more bats?

In Awakening, after tossing either a heavy armour or a buckets item, wait a bit and then 214214D. This puts you behind the opponent almost immediately, meaning they will get crossed up if they try to block the heavy armour or the buckets normally, even before Teddie appears on-screen.

Edit: I was totally wrong about this. The reason why the setup from heavy armour into 214214D works is because if the opponent tries to jump, they get clipped by the heavy armour, not because they get crossed up. 214214D does not cross-up, at least not before Teddy appears on-screen.

If they get hit by B+D, toss a missile at them while they're raged.

[Androu1]

This joint's kinda dead! Makes me beary sad... I'll share a lil' tip at least:

Teddie can do 2D Teddie A after Teddie Warp D. He'll cross under the opponent if the opponent's close to the TVs... neat little thing. Could possibly be useful.